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08/05/2024 11:02 AM
#2716
Ironic ?
Prime Minister Netanyahu and his colleagues have declared eliminating Hamas is their aim. They have indicated that the Palestinian Authority governing Gaza is unacceptable; that the IDF must be able to intervene, if deemed necessary. When Hamas is eliminated Israel will disclaim further responsibility, but Israel will have effectively reoccupied the territory — a de facto single state from the river to the sea!
One State being the reality, the future is full civil and political rights for Arabs.
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08/05/2024 01:42 PM
#2717
Originally Posted by Hamble
Post it then!
Your post 2686.
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08/05/2024 04:10 PM
#2718
Originally Posted by Alikado
Your post 2686.
You will have to ask sGZ how to copy/paste.
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08/05/2024 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Alikado
Your post 2686.
4 days ago.....
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"Hamas is the only thing standing in the way of a ceasefire, US Secretary of State Antony Blinken said overnight as a delegation of the Palestinian militants this morning were due to arrive in Cairo to resume talks.
Reports suggest that a deal could be agreed in the coming hours amid a flurry of diplomatic activity.
“We wait to see whether, in effect, they can take yes for an answer on the ceasefire and release of hostages,” Blinken said late Friday at the McCain Institute’s Sedona Forum in Arizona. “The reality in this moment is the only thing standing between the people of Gaza and a ceasefire is Hamas.”
“Taking the ceasefire should be a no-brainer,” he added, but said the “ultimate decision-makers” are members of the group in Gaza, with whom mediators have no direct contact.
Hamas and CIA officials will meet Egyptian mediators on Saturday, as foreign negotiators await a response from Hamas on the latest proposal to halt fighting for 40 days and exchange hostages for Palestinian prisoners.
Israel’s Channel 12 cited an unnamed Hamas source as saying that the group will shortly announce an acceptance of the first stage of the deal following US guarantees that Israel will withdraw from Gaza after 124 days, when all three phases of the agreement have been completed. The US guarantee was reportedly passed along via Egyptian and Qatari mediators at an eleventh hour meeting last night, which was also reported by Saudi newspaper Al Sharq.
The negotiations are reported to have been stalled recently over Hamas’ demand that the Israeli army withdraw completely from Gaza at the end of what Israel wants to be only a temporary pause in fighting, so that it can battle the remaining Hamas battalions in Rafah.
The World Health Organisation warned last night that if Israel does launch an offensive in the southern Gaza city of Rafah, which has been widely feared by the US and other allies, it would be a “bloodbath”.
The deal Israel was waiting for Hamas to agree too on April 29th?
Ceasefire not end to war leaving Hamas intact.
Hamas would not agree to ceasefire only end of war.
Israel rejected that.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...aza-deal-video
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08/05/2024 07:42 PM
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"Sinister Hamas terms would let it keep most hostages, win the war, inflame the West Bank
It took the US more than a day to internalize that Hamas had not in fact accepted a hostages-for-truce proposal. But the text of its ‘agreement’ is far more duplicitous than that".
https://www.timesofisrael.com/sinist...the-west-bank/
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08/05/2024 08:34 PM
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Netanyahu’s political survival in
hands of far-right ministers
Reliance on extremist allies such as Itamar Ben-Gvir and Bezalel Smotrich distancing prime minister from Israeli public
Israel’s far-right national security minister Itamar Ben-Gvir attends cabinet meeting in Jerusalem in 2023.Photograph: Ohad Zwigenberg/AP
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Israel’s national security minister presented himself before the television cameras to make a statement on Sunday, shortly after leaving a meeting with the country’s prime minister.
Invoking divine support, Itamar Ben-Gvir said he had “warned the prime minister that if God forbids it, Israel will not enter a ceasefire”. He said Benjamin Netanyahu “promised that Israel would enter Rafah, that the war would not end, and promised that there will be no irresponsible deal”.
The following Tuesday, Israeli troops had entered the Philadelphi corridor on the southern border with Egypt and taken control of the Rafah border crossing, hoisting Israeli flags from the terminal.
The sequencing of the two events was revealing. Faced once again with the threat posed by a fringe and extremist politician – who Netanyahu had elevated into government – the prime minister had given every appearance of blinking, underlining his reliance on far-right coalition allies such as Ben-Gvir and the finance minister, Bezalel Smotrich.
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09/05/2024 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by sandGroundZero
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Netanyahu’s political survival in
hands of far-right ministers
Reliance on extremist allies such as Itamar Ben-Gvir and Bezalel Smotrich distancing prime minister from Israeli public
Israel’s far-right national security minister Itamar Ben-Gvir attends cabinet meeting in Jerusalem in 2023.Photograph: Ohad Zwigenberg/AP
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The vast majority of Israelis do NOT want to go into RAFAH. They want the hostages released ASAP.
I can definitely understand ..if it was someone from my family held hostage I would want them released at any price…
Nearly everyday protests are held begging Netanyahu to come to a ceasefire agreement. ( Unfortunately this is pleasing Hamas leaders to no end)
Now that Biden has declared no arms for Israel, is a very sad state of affairs. Biden has forgotten that Hizbollah are sitting on Israel’s borders in the North. Hundred thousand Israeli civilian moved away from their homes.
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09/05/2024 02:09 PM
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09/05/2024 07:15 PM
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10/05/2024 08:59 AM
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Promoters of Palestinian history have short memories and bias when it comes their enemies.
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The 1834 revolt and the immediate aftermath reduced the male population of Palestine by about one-fifth. This decrease is attributed to the large numbers of peasants who were either deported to Egypt to work in manufacturing, drafted into Egypt's military, or abandoned their villages and farms to join the Bedouin nomadic populations.[53] Around 10,000 peasants were deported to Egypt and the general population was disarmed.[12] The conscription orders were extended beyond the Muslim population to the local Christians. Taxes were also extended from landed property to include livestock as well. As Ibrahim consolidated his hold over Palestine and disarmed the population, banditry by local tribesmen and civil strife was largely eliminated.[54]
Abandoned or rebellious villages were destroyed by Ibrahim Pasha's troops, which prevented their inhabitants from returning.[53] Ibrahim's army razed 16 villages before taking Nablus.[12] He also forced the heads of the Nablus clans to leave for nearby villages.[55][56] The absence of the traditional local leadership due to exile or execution left Palestine's urban population to be financially exploited by both the government and its local opponents.[53] The imprisoned headmen of villages were replaced by their sons, although Ibrahim Pasha demoted them as nawatir (watchmen) instead of the higher-ranking title of mukhtar.[41] Qasim's son Mahmud replaced him and the popularity of his father among the peasantry compelled the rural chiefs of Jabal Nablus to request from the government that Mahmud replace Sulaiman Abd al-Hadi as mutasallim of Nablus.[57]
Ottoman rule was subsequently reinstated in 1840 after Acre was recaptured with the critical support of the Royal Navy.[54] The peasants who were drafted into Muhammad Ali's army returned to their hometowns following the reassertion of Ottoman rule.[54] Not long after the end of Egyptian rule, the intermittently recurring civil strife between the Qays and Yaman tribo-political factions resumed in parts of central Palestine.[58] Throughout the 1840s until the 1860s, the Ottomans launched their own modernization reforms, known as the Tanzimat, throughout the empire with varying degrees of success.[6] Coinciding with these efforts, the international powers began a tug-of-war of influence in Palestine as they sought to extend their protection over the country's religious minorities, a struggle carried out mainly through their consular representatives in Jerusalem.[59]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peasan...t_in_Palestine
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